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Post by Lucunt🍻🔫Ԇ on May 16, 2013 16:36:34 GMT -5
Wow @ Starr being voted out on her birthday. :X Poor thing. Isn't she away? :S
I don't agree with Gloria having the Favs vote Starr. Thiago is a the biggest snake in this game and she blindly trusts him. Still don't get it. Starr w/o Thiago or Mark is like a snake without fangs + venom. -harmless-
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Post by Lucunt🍻🔫Ԇ on May 16, 2013 16:46:16 GMT -5
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Post by emily on May 16, 2013 17:21:12 GMT -5
Knox was in a good position with the four fan-guys. He maneuvered himself in a bad spot by being bossy, obnoxious, and freaking shady. Of course people were ready to vote him out after he did all of that. Had he just played a better social game, he would have been more into the loop of things.
IMO it's his own fault, and he's screwing over the people who dragged him here over Gabriel. I guess voting Gabe out over Knox when Gabe was in on all the plans the guys had when voting out Dion can go down as one of the worst moves so far.
I liked him, but I think it's really gross how cocky he is about this move and how it can't fail and whatnot. Eww sorry A, I wish you wrote all of that in the italic blue font but it seems to be OOC :/
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Post by Jessica on May 16, 2013 17:38:42 GMT -5
We need a "BIRTHDAY" picture for Starr.
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Post by dominic on May 16, 2013 19:01:23 GMT -5
Lmao Knox slowly morphed from one of my favorite players to someone I think needs to leave ASAP! Go cry somewhere else about how your alliance doesn't love you. Honestly, you're in the majority. You're making final 6. CONGRATS! Step out of character for 5 minutes and stop being an arrogant little prick about it.
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Post by Morgan on May 16, 2013 20:15:17 GMT -5
...but he'll get 6th?
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Post by Morgan on May 16, 2013 20:16:20 GMT -5
Dominic I just feel like you're not actually paying attention. These next two rounds are the ONLY rounds Knox can make a move- otherwise Mark/Thiago will pagong the favorites and boot him 6th. How in the world is that making a move to "get All-Stars"? It's one of the most sensical things done all season.
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Post by wendy on May 16, 2013 20:19:24 GMT -5
The problem is we don't know what would happen in the final 6? He can go on an immunity run and we still have Thiagos idol. Knox is playing a sensible game, but the way he goes about it is just horrible.
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Post by Morgan on May 16, 2013 20:20:39 GMT -5
The problem is we don't know what would happen in the final 6? He can go on an immunity run and we still have Thiagos idol. Knox is playing a sensible game, but the way he goes about it is just horrible. 1. He's playing a schtick of being a douche. 2. It's been stated multiple times in multiple threads that Knox will be the first to go of the fans. 3. Making a move to get yourself into a good position > letting yourself get to 6 and hoping you can go on an immunity run.
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Post by henry on May 16, 2013 20:59:28 GMT -5
"Playing a schtick of being a douche." tends to never be far off from actually being a douche... granted I only casually follow the game so I have no idea if he actually is one. I'm sure he's slightly more douchey than Morgan defends yet not the complete moronic a-hole people with less information seem to conclude. I suppose his final placement will determine how you guys can judge the move, but I would argue leaving yourself with the most opportunities for success (winning) is more important than actually where you finish.
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Post by Ryan on May 16, 2013 21:10:39 GMT -5
But he's in a bad position and forced to flip as a good move BECAUSE he caused people not to trust him and kind of got kicked out of his Fans alliance. So, yes, it is a good move based on current events; however, it could have been completely avoided if he did not make mistakes earlier. He's playing a lose-lose game.
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Post by ellen on May 16, 2013 21:22:34 GMT -5
I mean I guess I'm missing what was so awful about his game early on.
To me, him surviving over Gabe at the F4 on Reliquum is a testament to the fact that he's doing something right.
Sometimes you can play a good game and you just aren't in the core of your tribe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Cassie a perfect example of this? Albeit she didn't have a shtick like Knox, but she was still put in a similar situation in regards to flipping. She played what most (myself included) consider a virtually flawless game, but she still was not one of the Greg/John/Selena trifecta ruling the Angels Alliance. She had to flip to avoid waiting in line for her boot but I don't think she got herself into that situation by any real fault of her own.
Similarly, Knox has never factored into Thiago's endgame and he's being blacklisted now because he isn't blindly following what Mark and Thiago want him to do. At least that's my perception. I seem to remember him being left out to dry on the Dion vote and afterwards being strung along by Zac (sent on a mission by Mark and Thiago) pretending to be in the same situation.
To look at it another way, the reason no one flipped on us in Season 3 was because we didn't give them a reason to think that they needed to; unfortunately the new players have given Knox a reason to flip, and now he's seizing the opportunity. I guess I just don't think it's fully accurate to blame only Knox for his feelings of insecurity within his tribe. As they say, it's a two way street.
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Post by Lucunt🍻🔫Ԇ on May 16, 2013 21:24:42 GMT -5
Well even when he was in a good position within the fans alliance, if he made it to the end with Mark/Thiago or both, they would have wiped the floor with him. At least in doing this (While I don't think he's handled it in the correct manner) he's making something of a case if he makes it to the end.
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Post by wendy on May 16, 2013 21:32:34 GMT -5
A case that he can't win. He will burned too many bridges flip-flopping. In Big Brother, you are able to do that. Survivor, you can not. You are toying with people games and their emotions will be the deciding factor in the final vote.
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Post by ellen on May 16, 2013 21:36:19 GMT -5
I think it is incredibly premature to say that Knox can't win this game. I'm not saying that he will by any means, but I see no reason to rule him out. If I'm planning to blindside someone and they get me first, I'm not going to be bitter about it just because they started out on a tribe with me. Maybe if I'd been intending to be fully loyal to the person, but clearly Reliquum is not.
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