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Post by bree on May 30, 2013 0:10:37 GMT -5
Nice insight Bree. I understand why you did it, I don't think I was exactly loose-lipped but I was not playing against me so I can't clearly see that. Good game though, I think you were definitively underestimated a lot. I am really psyched to have these dudes though in the finals since they played such different games. I wanna hear what they have to say for sure. Thanks! And you did tell Ben to play an idol to get out Starr. In my mind... you really did run your mouth a lot, and that's ultimately why we were targeting you. Honestly... Thiago and I were thinking about taking you out in 9th if Ben had been 10th. Because of how you wanted to control the votes every time... we didn't like that at all. Yes, the guys really did say Ben that night. I have the chat log. So in the end, your move really did improve your placement
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Post by knox on May 30, 2013 0:17:42 GMT -5
Yay me! haha, I was gonna flip on you guys because I was not part of the votes, but then the Gloria vote happened and I had not many choices anymore. I had a whole plan in line, but I can see why you guys did what you did.
I actually told Gloria about idoling Starr, Ben was only in on the plan cause Gloria trusted him. And I guess Liam, and that was because I figured without Starr you would be a lot more maneagable and I would get some power. Which I did, so that was def a good move, like you said.
I guess I was a little loose-lipped, but thats what happens when someone doesn't feel like a part of an alliance. Especially after the Chase vote and my idea to destroy Carly cause she sucked didn't even get any attention.
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Post by bree on May 30, 2013 0:29:45 GMT -5
We - being me, Mark, Thiago, and Zac - were deciding between Gloria and YOU that round... and well, no guts, no glory! Mark and I decided to make the extremely ballsy move to take Gloria out... and apparently she had another idol too. I do not regret that at all, especially since Gloria was out to get me and had been spreading lies about me all game. BTW, Gloria... my friends Zelda and Lauren say "Yer a stupid Yankee varmint" and "I never want to see you again, Dad" respectively. I heard about an S3 deal that involved Starr... or should I say Kendell. I think she was the right choice... even if I wasn't immune. Unless you all were threatened by what I had done to Chad. And Knox, was I the only one trying to make you feel like a part of the alliance? I was exalting you when I could and I relayed the information about the Ben vote to you. We decided that as a group - I think you were the only one who wasn't there. I'm sorry if you felt left out... but you weren't there to add in that night. And we did vote Carly out when you said so... we just didn't want to gun for her first because there were bigger fish to fry. If Carly and Taylor were both gone and the other four were still in the mix... it would have only benefited YOU. We knew that. That's why we didn't go along with it. Thought you'd want to know
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Post by knox on May 30, 2013 0:51:28 GMT -5
I had to try and play my game, you know? i figured early on that with how busy I was I would be on the outs, so I had a whole plan laid out. Sadly Mark caught onto it and then you guys took Gloria out and it was all bad, frankly had I been online earlier that day I think that would have changed cause Mark or Zac would have told me the vote was Gloria and I would have told her to play her idol. Foolish me, I should have let her do it.
Mark and Zac were trying to make me feel like part, and Thiago at some point too. But I was never fully convinced, I thought you guys were all really transparent, you'll see in my confessional the internal conflict I had with picking sides. It's insane. I appreciated you approaching me that one round, and that's honestly when I decided you weren't as bad, before that I couldn't stand you because you had been talking about me. According to Thiago and etc.
It is what it is, I mean I was on the outs because I was so busy that I didn't get a chance to be as active as I wanted. I had a lot of deals though, the guys wanted a final 4 with me but I was like "Eh... NO" cause I didn't wanna lie, probably should have taken it. I also had a really tight alliance with Zac and Mark, I am interested to see how that fares with the one that they had with you and Thiago.
You got me good though. I was really nervous that one round cause none of you guys were talking to me. I even told Morgan I had a bad feeling about it as soon as TC started. It was crazy, but you got me good, the fact that Mark/Zac voted with me make me think that had you not pulled that move things would have been different for some reason. But maybe it's wishful thinking.
You really played a great game Bree, I think people didn't realize it [or maybe it was just me] because you were so hidden behind a character. But I am glad to find that out now <3
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Post by bree on May 30, 2013 0:59:16 GMT -5
I'm glad I can be real with y'all now. You'll see... a lot in my confessional, especially since I dropped the shtick in there when I got bored with it xD By the way, I also have been very busy since this game started. I'm usually only on at nighttime now given how I have many goings-on that I didn't have at the start of the year. That's why I wasn't as social as I would have liked. The reason why you had to go was because Thiago and I never trusted you. He also knew that you were in an F3 with Zac and Knox and I had a strong suspicion of that as well, but that you weren't their priority after you ran your mouth. And thank you! You played hard too... although I do gotta wonder what was really going on in your head at times. The way you played both sides got a lot of people to not trust you, ya know? But hey, at least you tried to do something - and that alone takes a lot of balls. Good game!
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Post by ben on May 30, 2013 1:36:09 GMT -5
Bree I understand why you took out Chad. I just feel like it would have been smarter for a different favorite to leave. Chad is the sole reason you didn't receive votes that round, he would have protected you. Did you notice what happened after he left? You received vote after vote round after round. You were constantly on the chopping block because you didn't have Chad to defend you. Obviously you didn't need him, but still.
Bree you didn't really have Liam and I wrapped around your finger... we almost voted for you that round because we didn't believe you and figured if the men split their votes they'd throw a vote at you. The next round Liam and I voted for each other so the whole point was null and void.
I think you played a strong game though so congrats on final 4. I don't know who I am voting for now.
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Post by bree on May 30, 2013 8:42:45 GMT -5
I didn't know that Chad had defended me until after he left. Had he not told me that he was betraying me, I would not have taken him out. After I knew he didn't want to work with me, I couldn't have him in the game and Chad realizes it.
I also didn't know that you were contemplating voting for me again. If you had, Knox would have stayed over Liam. I had no reason to lie to you and give you false hope, because that would only make me look bad. Unlike Gloria, I don't go around telling lies for no reason. I blame her for a lot of things. A lot of falsities. Shticking =/= lying. I make characters and only tell the lies I need to tell. Like how we were voting for Carly instead of Chad. I consider myself an honest and loyal player, because that's what I like to do. However, after this game, I will no longer trust anyone for any reason. I really don't have a reason to after all the lies that came out of fuckwad Mark's mouth.
And thank you! My vote is pretty much locked right now, but if somebody else knocks my rather torturous set of questions, there's a chance - a small fucking chance - I will vote for them to win.
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Post by chad on May 30, 2013 12:48:06 GMT -5
Mhm, Bree and I had a lot of conversations about it already. Clearly, I know where my biggest mistakes are.
HOWEVER I CAN'T HELP IT IF PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY MAKING FAKE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ME.
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Post by bree on May 30, 2013 13:11:57 GMT -5
Yeah, the horse is dead.
Let's instead complain about how nobody's even posted an opening yet!
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Post by bree on May 30, 2013 23:29:28 GMT -5
So ya know... the real reason I posted such a long and arduous set of questions was to make them feel as used and abused as they made me feel. That and I wanted them to regret voting me out the way they did.
Honestly, they deserve it imho.
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Post by ben on May 30, 2013 23:30:32 GMT -5
Haha yeah Bree, Liam and I were just thrown off because we had been plagued by lie after lie by the guys, we were just taken aback by the honesty from you and we definitely appreciate it. Honestly, you likely would have received my vote because of that if you had made the final 3. As for the openings... wow, one of theirs made me go and I am rethinking everything! I felt pretty confident I was voting one way but now I am reconsidering. The third one of them made me completely write them off haha. I am now pretty sure how I am voting, and it's not who I came in thinking.
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Post by knox on May 30, 2013 23:35:04 GMT -5
Ben, I couldn't agree more, those opening statements were pretty eye opening, I am really interested to hear them answer questions now. The game related ones at the very least.
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Post by bree on May 30, 2013 23:38:27 GMT -5
Haha yeah Bree, Liam and I were just thrown off because we had been plagued by lie after lie by the guys, we were just taken aback by the honesty from you and we definitely appreciate it. Honestly, you likely would have received my vote because of that if you had made the final 3. I'm glad to hear that! And yeah... I didn't get why they'd lie to you so much. My philosophy is typically that I only tell the lies I need to tell. They probably lied way too many times. Had you told me about them contemplating voting me off - like by showing me proof (I wouldn't have believed it otherwise) - I would have joined you and Liam, told you about Mark's sword, and I would have gone with their split vote idea... only to vote Zac off with you guys. 3-2-1, they pay for it, and I can choose who I'm in the final three with. Needless to say... it wouldn't include Mark.
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Post by ben on May 30, 2013 23:54:00 GMT -5
Hahaha I'm most pissed at Mark for making me feel like shit for voting him out when he told me he had voted for you and lied to me as well. But he said Thiago and you told him and he switched his vote, but I didn't buy it. It'll be one of my questions, I'm sure.
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Post by bree on May 31, 2013 0:25:25 GMT -5
Hahaha I'm most pissed at Mark for making me feel like shit for voting him out when he told me he had voted for you and lied to me as well. But he said Thiago and you told him and he switched his vote, but I didn't buy it. It'll be one of my questions, I'm sure. I don't know what really went down with those boys... they have a lot to tell me, that's for sure. And I really regret voting you out too... because we could have been together if I had known I was really on the bottom and that Mark was a jackass. Also... Thiago - key allies: Mark, Zac, Gabriel, Bree, Starr Main threat/enemy: Mark, Ben Strategy coming in: to be well-liked and trustworthy. Changed to a leader position on fans tribe. Downfall may be wanting to go to the end with Mark. Mark - key allies: Thiago, Zac, Knox, Bree Main threat/enemy: Ben, Bree strategy coming in was to ingratiate himself within the tribe, lay low. That changed when he started doing really well in competitions and almost became the leader of the new Reliquum tribe. Downfall may have been wanting to go to the end with Thiago.
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