[12.1] Tonight We Miss the Starrs

[bree]

BOOOO! That bites.


Well, to be honest, Starr was kind of a loose cannon anyway, and this will at least make the entirety of pre-jury happy.

Most of my thoughts are in this conversation with Thiago:

Fleur Du 9:27 pm
This is very bad.
Thiago 9:28 pm
why
we are still up
Fleur Du 9:28 pm
I don't think so.
Thiago 9:28 pm
...
how
there are 5 of us
Fleur Du 9:28 pm
How did they know to play it on Ben?
Thiago 9:28 pm
i don't think everyone was super secretive
ben said he heard a lot of "i'm sorrys" today
i think we all didnt expect an idol
Fleur Du 9:29 pm
I only said I am sorry on parchment
Thiago 9:29 pm
it makes no sense for someoen to turn, so i doubt it
they would have to know gloria had an idol
and also feel they have a better shot with strangers
Fleur Du 9:29 pm
Well, I don't trust Knox one bit
Thiago 9:29 pm
i know it isnt you and the reliquum 3 met them at the merge
i doubt knox is capable of that
Fleur Du 9:30 pm
My thought process is that he has a pre-game with Ben and Liam
Thiago 9:30 pm
honestly the one knox kept saying he didnt trust was starr
so with her gone i think he will be more solid
omg he does not have a pregame with them
that's ludicrous
knox likes you now, he told me the other night he likes you way more than he did premerge
so whatever youre doing with him, its working
Fleur Du 9:31 pm
Well, my way of seeing it is that he only voted for Ben to make us think everything was okay
I did tell him the truth about several things
Thiago 9:31 pm
i tihnk you are paranoid
Fleur Du 9:31 pm
Including how Mark figured out he was the target
And how the guys wanted to vote for Ben
Thiago 9:31 pm
well its working he likes you now
he didnt like starr though
that was ALWAYS his worry
Fleur Du 9:31 pm
Well, to be honest, if anyone had to go of our foursome, I'd have preferred it to be her
Thiago 9:32 pm
im sad
but its done with now
Fleur Du 9:32 pm
I am too. I got to know Skylar better this game.
That and I got to lay all those issues from the night in Fibo to rest
Thiago 9:32 pm
i think its really important that us 5 stick together
those 4 are sitll voting together and now using idols to save each other
Fleur Du 9:32 pm
Yes. And hope that it doesn't tie if one of them has the double vote apple
Thiago 9:32 pm
the fact that gloria used her idol on someone else is telling that the faves are super loyal to one another
well at this point we have nothing to gain by not voting together
if anyone flips they get 5th place, done deal
Fleur Du 9:34 pm
Yeah, and I hope me/you/Mark can be F3
Thiago 9:34 pm
i was actually thinking along the same lines
i posted a confessional last night saying im starting to think about f3 (i got cocky and was sure ben would leave)
and felt that was the f3 i wanted the most
Fleur Du 9:35 pm
I was too, although I feel most threatened by Mark given his idol stunt. You and I have been playing the same game so we're on even ground :-)
Thiago 9:35 pm
well it wasnt an amazing move
liam made it clear he was voting for him
anyoen with an idol would have done that
Fleur Du 9:35 pm
True that
Thiago 9:36 pm
do you think its possible starr told them it was ben
to try and make nice
and they burned her
Fleur Du 9:36 pm
It may be
Skylar is busy partying tonight since it's his birthday
Thiago 9:36 pm
right
Fleur Du 9:37 pm
I said happy birthday last week when it said it was his birthday both at the GvsE site and Gsurvivor2 and he said... nope, it's today
Thiago 9:39 pm
yeah i was confused also

Really, I don't know where to begin. I think someone let it slip that we were voting for Ben. I for one knew they might have an idol and were waiting to use it correctly.

This is... ughhhhhhh. Somebody give me a hug!

[Lucunt🍻🔫Ԇ]

[bree]

May 16, 2013 23:49:17 GMT -5 Lucunt🍻🔫Ԇ said:

Thanks Luca <3



Anyway, Liam won the challenge. Great. Just great. We have a one in three shot at getting them to play their likely SECOND idol on somebody. I mean, weren't there supposed to be three? Two have been played. That means someone, likely Liam, has another. There may be even another if Mark's was indeed from an apple... but I doubt they'd have both. Why would Gloria play hers on Ben if he had one too? So we wouldn't think he did, Malcolm style? Hmm... food for thought.

This means we need to use logistics here. We can lie that we're targeting Ben again, say we're sorry, etc. and then vote for Gloria instead so they play the HII on Ben. The downside? They will probably figure we're lying and play it on her anyway, since Taylor is too inactive to get votes.

This is why I think the best move may be to target Taylor. If we lie we're voting, say, Gloria, they'll likely figure that our real target is Gloria or Ben - either that we're lying to get them to play an HII on Gloria or that we're telling the truth so they think we're lying. They are LESS likely to think Taylor is who we'd vote for. There's still a chance, and Liam having immunity complicates things.

If we guess wrong, I am likely jury bound. They'd idol me out in a heartbeat, because I think they realize that I'm just pretending that I'm this naive Quebecois girl so they underestimate me. All a part of the plan. Which may be going to hell. There is at least one HII unaccounted for and one apple we don't know about yet. That could be potentially fatal, since they have their sights set on me given... they probably know who I am and what I am made of. And Gloria hates me.

I have some work to do. Gotta talk to the boys to see what they think. It's gonna be a rough one, but I wanna stay in it!

[bree]

Mark Jeffcoat 9:46 pm
Will...Thiago isn't here and I don't know how much I should say without him here, but we want to solidify a final 3 with you
Fleur Du 9:47 pm
Tres bien! I was thining that too :-)
Mark Jeffcoat 9:47 pm
I mean it only makes sense
Fleur Du 9:48 pm
Oui. We had alliance on Reliqum and we come back at merge. I hope we can do it :-)
Mark Jeffcoat 9:48 pm
I wanted us with starr a long time ago
With Starr gone it takes away the complication of who becomes 4th
Fleur Du 9:49 pm
Oui. That would have been hard decision. It give me headache!
Mark Jeffcoat 9:49 pm
Now we don't have to make it


Do I want this? HELL. YES. I know Mark is a threat to win, but I'm not gonna turn my back on him. He has my back, I'll have his. That's how I play. The moment you turn your back on me is the moment I stick the knife into it.

I am still keeping the shtick up to him because he calls me "mah belle" and "mon ami." And I really really like that, it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. I don't want to lie to him and all... sorry if you take offense to it, Mark. But I have been completely real with you... except for the Quebecois girl named Fleur thing. Am I really as busy during the day as I say I am? Yes. I work out, I go to classes, I am looking to volunteer, I attend a writer's club... my life is busy. Hence why I am basically gonna retire after this series.


Of course, the fireworks continue:

Mark Jeffcoat 9:49 pm
And I have better news
I have a sword
Fleur Du 9:50 pm
Another? :-)
Mark Jeffcoat 9:50 pm
I've had it since round 4
And I plan to use it one whoever of us three needs it before the final 6
Fleur Du 9:51 pm
Tres bien! We need that, oui. I like you much! :-D
Mark Jeffcoat 9:52 pm
Why thank you! We just need to use it very wisely
And I like you too
Mark Jeffcoat 9:52 pm
:-)
Fleur Du 9:53 pm
:-)


How to put this mildly...

FUCK. YES.

This makes things WAY, WAY BETTER. We have one on our side.


Of course...

randomzacattac 9:54 pm
hey Bree!
Fleur Du 9:54 pm
Bonjour Zac!
randomzacattac 9:54 pm
how's it going?
have you spoken to anyone about what we're doing next?
Fleur Du 9:55 pm
I am good. And non, I just get on not too long ago.
randomzacattac 9:56 pm
I know that what happened last round was a bad thing and we need to be very careful about what we do
Fleur Du 9:56 pm
Oui. We have many choices.
Liam being safe makes it hard.
randomzacattac 9:56 pm
well, we still have options like you said
lol don't you get tired of keeping up the french accent?
Fleur Du 9:57 pm
Oui.
randomzacattac 9:57 pm

Fleur Du 9:58 pm
I think I can drop it now that you know.
randomzacattac 9:58 pm
you can
lol
randomzacattac 9:58 pm
It's fun but it might just be easier for you

Yep, busted. It's obvious, like Starr said. And to be honest, I don't really care. I'm getting tired of it. I want to tell Mark... but I do want him to trust me still.


randomzacattac 9:58 pm
anyway
we can't vote for Liam
Ben will probably be expecting votes
Fleur Du 9:59 pm
Right, but we need to get a read on their thought process.
Do they think we'll vote for Ben again? Do they think we'll go after Gloria? Are they willing to idol Taylor?


I gotta wonder if the silence is due to him lost in deep thought from how thought-provoking my questions were. Sudden change in character = hard to process.

Eight minutes later...

randomzacattac 10:07 pm
Their thought process
hmmm
I don't know that they'd have another idol, but if they did, would they use it on Taylor?
Probably yes
I think that they'd use it on any of them
at this point
there's 4 of them left
I think they know that if they go down one more, then they're pretty well finished
Fleur Du 10:08 pm
Five of us. If they have another idol and play it on the person we vote for, I'm gone and it's four of us and four of them
randomzacattac 10:09 pm
they probably will vote for you
since they did the round prior to last
randomzacattac 10:09 pm
hopefully the 5 of us just vote together
Fleur Du 10:10 pm
Yeah, I don't want to leave.
randomzacattac 10:10 pm
the favorites cannot know who we're voting
I think Ben will be expecting it to be him
Gloria may expect it as well for using the idol on Ben?
I do think that Taylor is the best bet
Fleur Du 10:10 pm
Which means Taylor may expect it as well because the other two are expecting it
randomzacattac 10:11 pm
right
so maybe we just pick one lol
and they can all be guessing
have you talked to Knox at all?
Fleur Du 10:11 pm
That's probably best.
randomzacattac 10:11 pm
he's not been around
Fleur Du 10:11 pm
Not today, or about this vote
randomzacattac 10:12 pm
have you talked to him since Starr left?
Fleur Du 10:12 pm
I don't believe so
randomzacattac 10:12 pm
me neither...
Fleur Du 10:12 pm
I am most concerned about him flipping, and I don't know why he would guarantee himself fifth like that
randomzacattac 10:13 pm
I don't know why either
it'd be so dumb of him


So we gotta take a stab in the dark and hope that Knox doesn't flip on us.

More coming soon!

[bree]

Fleur Du 10:26 pm
I gotta wonder if Knox suggested to the others to vote Starr, or if they did on their own
randomzacattac 10:26 pm
I don't know
he probably guided them
otherwise why not Thiago or Mark again?
who'd be the bigger threats
I don't know what to think lol
Fleur Du 10:27 pm
And that's the problem here.
randomzacattac 10:27 pm
but I'm down for voting any of the three of them
Fleur Du 10:27 pm
Why did they target Starr of all people? Starr ran her mouth the most too.
randomzacattac 10:28 pm
I guess
it doesn't make a lot of sense
I'm sure Knox was involved somehow
but we can't confront him about it
randomzacattac 10:28 pm
I just wish he'd show up!
Fleur Du 10:28 pm
Right. That scares me. Why is he hiding?
randomzacattac 10:29 pm
no idea, and I know what you mean.
Fleur Du 10:29 pm
He might be afraid that we're onto him having a pre-game with one of the favorites
randomzacattac 10:29 pm
he's probably feeling guilty about something
I really hope that's not the case
I don't like pre-games

Fleur Du 10:30 pm
Likewise, because chances are they'd target me.
And I hate pre-games too. The only time I've ever had one was by accident.
randomzacattac 10:30 pm
well, I see that Ben is online
so I might try to talk to him
see if he tells me anything
Fleur Du 10:31 pm
see what you can get out of him, yeah
He wouldn't tell me so
randomzacattac is available 10:31 pm
randomzacattac 10:32 pm
should I tell him who we're "voting" for?
randomzacattac 10:32 pm
I won't right now
because we're not decided yet
Fleur Du 10:33 pm
I don't think you should give him any name
There are three people to choose from, it's sort of a rock-paper-scissors
randomzacattac 10:33 pm
just tell him that it's not him?
okay I'll say nothing

randomzacattac 10:36 pm
he says he's open to ideas lol
he just doesn't want to go
Fleur Du 10:37 pm
I don't know what the best approach is, to be honest.
Gloria saved him with an idol. He'd never vote for her.
What I think he's doing is trying to get a name out of you.
randomzacattac 10:37 pm
maybe




...in worse news...



Thiago 10:49 pm
ok
i really want us to have a convo with mark
Fleur Du 10:50 pm
But I might try to pop on during the day
Mark already told me about the final 3 deal
and his idol
I am 100% on board
Thiago 10:50 pm
omg
he told you
Fleur Du 10:51 pm
Yes. That fast.
Thiago 10:51 pm
well great
did he tell you about what knox did
Fleur Du 10:51 pm
I don't think so
Thiago 10:52 pm
so knox told the faves we were voting ben
Fleur Du 10:52 pm
I figured.
Thiago 10:52 pm
you know what his reason was?
Fleur Du 10:52 pm
Nope
Thiago 10:52 pm
"you guys wouldnt listen to me so i wanted to show you that i'm playing the game too"
-_____-
he's such a brat
Fleur Du 10:53 pm
that is officially the dumbest thing I have heard all year
Thiago 10:53 pm
yep
and he told mark
that if we dont vote taylor
he's flipping
so here's the deal
Thiago 10:53 pm
we vote taylor
and we vote knox off the next round i'm thinking
Fleur Du 10:54 pm
We need to get rid of him, yes.
Thiago 10:54 pm
but we cant do it too soon because
then the faves can tie with us
mark thinks knox is with us because this is hwa thappened
mark told knox
"they told me you told them we were voting ben"
and knox ADMITTED IT
mark was just fishing
he said gloria was working him and told him starr was after him or something and that i was apparently speaking badly about him which i wasnt
so he wanted to show us
but now that knox thinks the faves sold him out, i think we have his vote..
but mark said he'd be willing to play the idol on you or me depending on how they vote.
Thiago 10:56 pm
mark wants to vote off gloria maybe if we use an idol..
Fleur Du 10:56 pm
I would prefer Gloria if we do use an idol
Knox is unstable and irrational
Thiago 10:56 pm
he's an idiot
what kind of move is that
Fleur Du 10:56 pm
Does Zac know about this?
Thiago 10:57 pm
if he joins the faves and goes to f3 with them
the fans wont vote knox
the faves will vote for a fave
knox gets 0 votes
what a stupid game move, really
uhh not that i know.
Fleur Du 10:57 pm
He'd be like Sherri
Thiago 10:57 pm
i dont think zac knows anything
Fleur Du 10:57 pm
Should I tell him?
Thiago 10:57 pm
about the idol??
i dont know if that's our information to give out
the knox thing is probably a good idea..
what knox did
Fleur Du 10:58 pm
About Knox and voting Taylor
Thiago 10:58 pm
yeah
yeah do it
good idea


Dear Knox, you're a dumbass. k thanks.


I showed this convo to Zac, sans everything about the idol and final three deals. He's down with voting Taylor, and he thinks Knox is stupid, too. He's totally on board with voting Taylor, and since Zac is in the final four right now, he has no reason to flip until the final 6.



Thiago 11:16 pm
oh also
ben has been trying to work me
and get me to flip
and asked me to vote you
Fleur Du 11:17 pm
That's... bad.
Thank you for telling me
Thiago 11:17 pm
so i wonder if he says anything to you too
Fleur Du 11:17 pm
He hasn't
Thiago 11:17 pm
thats good then
then we know thats probably what hes doing
we have an idol sweetie
Fleur Du 11:18 pm
Yes.
We need to get a read on Knox first
Thiago 11:18 pm
yeah
well knox had told me he was growing to like you a lot more
i know starr was the one he had the most issues with
Fleur Du 11:18 pm
But this may be a better safe than sorry sort of thing
Thiago 11:18 pm
i guess starr never spole with him
starr did it to herself in a way
Fleur Du 11:18 pm
he probably got them to vote Starr tbh
Thiago 11:18 pm
i wouldnt be shocked
they thought she was running the show on the fans
Fleur Du 11:19 pm
We gotta wonder if he did that with the condition that he'd vote with them next round
If he votes for me with them... well we have the idol
Thiago 11:19 pm
one thing is for sure
i dont think he would lie to mark and zac
about how he's voting
so that's why i feel okay that whatever he tells them is true
Fleur Du 11:20 pm
True. But we gotta think... we have a final four alliance.
Thiago 11:20 pm
because he didnt flat out betray them last time, it was kind of sneaky
he doesnt know that though
Fleur Du 11:20 pm
Right, which is why I think we might have to play that idol now.
BUT
If we play it
Fleur Du 11:20 pm
A new one is hidden
Thiago 11:20 pm
the only problem is if we play it and he DOESNT flip
then he will DEFINITELY flip
and make it 4-4 at final 8

Dear Ben, I want you gone FAST. Thanks Thiago.

I think I will get more votes this round. It's attention, and I like attention when I play, as long as it isn't drama attention.


Anyway, since this is convo city already, I'm gonna summarize:
1) We vote out Taylor so Knox votes with us
2) We blindside Knox 4-3-1 next round. Stupid sneak isn't getting All-Stars on my watch.
3) We vote out Gloria, Ben, or Liam afterward, likely Gloria. I don't like her.

We have the idol as insurance. One of us three will use it. That's how we're going to get to the end. Me, Thiago, and Mark.