Ben Bends [and Snaps]

[Zac]

I let everyone else do the work for me. I didn't have to win individual competitions. Was I carried to the end? It might look that way. But I made the right connections and I stayed loyal. It does suck that some people had to fight hard to try to stay alive, but why should I feel guilty about that? And how does it make me worse for it? I was in a better position than most of them and regardless of how I reached the end, I'm still here. It wasn't my intent to play that way, and I don't normally do, but it was the style I had to adopt. And I played the best game that I could. I wasn't as social, but this isn't just a social game, and it's not even about who won the most challenges. It's about who the jury thinks played the best game overall and their reasons for why they think that. I understand why you're giving me a hard time, but I don't think I'm the one you should be focused on, T.

[thiago]

You're sitting here in the Final 3 which makes you just as able-bodied as Mark and myself to win this game. I'm not going to count you out, it would be egotistical to do so.

Given you had so much information in the game, why didn't you ever take the opportunity to make a move and get people against Mark and myself? You had plenty of information to make it happen. If you think, right now, that you don't have much of a shot to win in this F3, why not try and make another happen? I would have certainly voted for you to win if you had pulled that off, and I would expect Mark would do that same. I cannot buy the argument that you played the best game you could, because you're a nice guy, you understand this game, and you were very capable of changing this game if you wanted to.

[Zac]

Yes, if I wanted to, I could have changed the game. Instead I chose to stick to my guns and stick with the people that I trusted all along, and that trusted me. You and Mark never tried to take each other out of the game, so why am I getting flack from you for doing the same? And if that means that I finish in 3rd place because I didn't, you know what? I'm still proud of that feat. I don't think anybody really expected me to be sitting in the end, but here I am. And when I said I'd be okay with certain things having a possibility of happening, I didn't mean that I'd be okay with it emotionally, but that it wouldn't have damaged my game. You weren't in my shoes, you have no idea if I played the best game I could or not. No matter what you or people on the jury think, I'm proud of my game, and I do think that I should win.

I don't know. I feel like you should have stopped talking a long time ago. This jury was very clearly in your corner from the start, but the more you talk, the more I think that you feel like you are losing control of things. You did play a good game, but if it was as good a game as you (and most of the jury) seem to think, then you wouldn't need to make my game look even worse than people already think it is.

[thiago]

I'm not trying to make it look worse, I'm just questioning some of your responses. I think that's warranted given there are 3 people fighting for 1 spot.

I wasn't giving your flack for not taking Mark or I out, but what I was asking is, that if you felt that you're least likely to get votes with us 3, why not change it up?

It's a different scenario for me because I believed that I have a shot against the both of you, where you, for some reason, don't believe that you do, so why not have changed it up?

I'm not "talking" because I feel I am "losing" control of things. I have addressed comments that have been made that are either dishonest or don't make sense. As someone who enjoys debating, it comes from my personality, not out of "losing control." There is no way to control a jury, and to come into a Final Judgment with that attitude does not match my personality, given I rarely felt confident until voting results were posted.

[Zac]

Jun 1, 2013 15:43:16 GMT -5 thiago said:

I have addressed comments that have been made that are either dishonest or don't make sense.

You calling me a liar now?

Everyone perceives things differently, so how can you say that some of the things I've said are dishonest? Were you in my brain? I think not. And I did think I had a shot to beat you both and still do, despite what people may think. It is possible with 3 of us and 9 jurors. And it doesn't even take all of them. But I came into this finale just as fine with losing to either of you because of the relationships that we had. That's not me conceding defeat, either.

[thiago]

"either dishonest OR don't make sense"

The dishonest part was in reference to Mark. The doesn't make sense was in reference to you.

I also appreciate you not resorting to getting nasty when having a fair debate back and forth, which is certainly being seen over in Carly's thread.

[Zac]

You know the jury's loving this. lol

[Zac]

But I am also tired of hearing you talk now .

[thiago]

I'm tired of talking too Let's agree to disagree. I think we've both made our points.